# Identification problem: Blanchard & Kahn conditions are not satisfied: indeterminacy

**URL:** <https://forum.dynare.org/t/identification-problem-blanchard-kahn-conditions-are-not-satisfied-indeterminacy/26933>\
**Category:** Identification/Sensitivity\
**Created:** [25 December 2024 03:09 UTC](https://forum.dynare.org/t/identification-problem-blanchard-kahn-conditions-are-not-satisfied-indeterminacy/26933 "2024-12-25T03:09:27Z")\
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**Author:** ![Oliver](https://forum.dynare.org/user_avatar/forum.dynare.org/oliver/32/19222_2.png) [@Oliver](https://forum.dynare.org/u/Oliver)\
**Post date:** [25 December 2024 03:09 UTC](https://forum.dynare.org/t/identification-problem-blanchard-kahn-conditions-are-not-satisfied-indeterminacy/26933/1 "2024-12-25T03:09:27Z")

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Dear professor @jpfeifer  
I tried to run identification analysis but I got the error message like this:

 ![error11111](https://forum.dynare.org/uploads/default/original/3X/b/6/b653b0da732d4306a9f7365fcfc79e1a76e79566.png)

I don’t know how to fix this. Please help me.  
Any instruction will be much appreciated.

[newObdata.mat](https://forum.dynare.org/uploads/short-url/sC2Qy2g1GnhNZyizQKHHdnJQFpK.mat) (5.0 KB)  
[parameters\_pp.m](https://forum.dynare.org/uploads/short-url/vOyZY9fCYcTDzTEdvRqz6XgHEJS.m) (976 Bytes)  
[PP.mod](https://forum.dynare.org/uploads/short-url/7KrEEvuicD3lYexOOXhPHDO5TG2.mod) (7.5 KB)

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**Author:** ![Jingjing](https://forum.dynare.org/letter_avatar_proxy/v4/letter/j/a88e57/32.png) [@Jingjing](https://forum.dynare.org/u/Jingjing)\
**Post date:** [26 December 2024 12:13 UTC](https://forum.dynare.org/t/identification-problem-blanchard-kahn-conditions-are-not-satisfied-indeterminacy/26933/2 "2024-12-26T12:13:28Z")

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Hi Oliver:  
It always the timing of varibles, like: capital and bond, you could check your model. For example:

```auto
y = theta+(1/(eps-1))*A+alpha*k(-1)+(1-alpha)*L;
...
...

```

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**Author:** ![jpfeifer](https://forum.dynare.org/user_avatar/forum.dynare.org/jpfeifer/32/5044_2.png) [@jpfeifer](https://forum.dynare.org/u/jpfeifer)\
**Post date:** [27 December 2024 13:02 UTC](https://forum.dynare.org/t/identification-problem-blanchard-kahn-conditions-are-not-satisfied-indeterminacy/26933/3 "2024-12-27T13:02:54Z")

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As @Oliver correctly pointed out, your timing seems incorrect. Before you move to estimation, you should try to get a simulated version of the model to run.
